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No Vande Mataram, but why Pakistan? 
Sandhya Jain
06 Nov 2009

Shiv Sena executive president Uddhav Thackeray’s attack on the Jamiat-Ulema-e-Hind for opposing the singing of Vande Mataram, saying that those who oppose the National Song should go to Pakistan, misses the wood for the trees.


The point is not whether Muslims should sing this song, but whether they are legitimately entitled to Pakistan (and Bangladesh) as ‘homeland’ for the Muslims of the Indian sub-continent when Islam neither recognises nationalism, nor national boundaries, nor any concept of nationhood as understood by the modern world, nor any forms of government, barring the extinct Caliphate. 
 

The logic of the Muslim plea that they cannot bow to any form of divinity other than Allah is well-taken; if their religion prohibits it, so be it.


If devout believers wish to adhere by the tenets of their faith as best as they can in a land in which they constitute a minority (Allah be praised for this significant mercy), and if this involves keeping a sharp distance from the national ethos and majority community, it follows that Muslims must disengage from participation in the Indian polity.


Far from contesting elections by canvassing votes from the non-believing (Kafir) majority, much less demanding reserved seats in the Parliament and State Assemblies, Muslims must live only religious lives if they consent to be guided by an ulema that insists that Religion Alone defines their identity.


If Muslims cannot have multiple identities as believers and as secular citizens, professionals, and so on, this purely religious identity cannot be allowed to intrude upon the national sensitivities of other citizens. More specifically, it cannot be allowed to be projected publicly in a manner deemed offensive and insulting to Hindus who comprise the country’s majority and autochthonous religious and cultural group, its civilisational tradition, and foundational ethos.


More pertinently, Muslims thus defined by religion must cease and desist from making secular demands upon the secular State. Far from being entitled to the first claim on national resources, Muslims with such a pick-and-choose attitude to symbols of nationhood have no right to demand state support for their clergy-producing factories, segregated education for girls, reserved employment in public services, and so on. Defined and circumscribed by their own ulema, kept aloof from vibrant participation in national life, they should learn to fend for themselves as well.


Indians, particularly Hindus, do themselves no honour by decrying the Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind as regressive for endorsing the Deoband Darul Uloom’s 2006 fatwa prohibiting Muslims from singing Vande Mataram even in its truncated form or ‘official’ version. The 30th general session of the Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind at Deoband aimed at de-linking Indian Muslims from an Indian national identity as a prelude to something grimmer, which will doubtless be unveiled in coming days.


What Jamiat achieved – and we must see it that way – was to release the rest of us from the burden of further accommodating Muslim separatism. We cannot tell Muslims how to live, and in any case, it would be far more rewarding for Hindus to resolve their own social problems like dowry and female foeticide before pontificating on the value or demerit of the Muslim veil. But we can refuse to permit the extension of mullah fiat in the national domain.


As a first step, Hindus must demand that Vande Mataram be restored to its full glory; the truncated official version must henceforth be equated with iconoclasm. The song is an ode to the Mother Goddess Durga and Bharat Mata, motherland of the Hindu people, and the Goddess and Land are one and indivisible. This subtle and profound multi-dimensional perception of divinity, a unique attribute of the Hindu people, must now be allowed to bloom in its full glory in its native land.


As a necessary corollary, the mollycoddling of minority separatism must stop forthwith. The forthcoming winter session of Parliament, where the Sonia Gandhi-led UPA is likely to bring in legislation to provide public sector job reservation for Muslims, will be crucial in the battle to defeat Muslim Separatism, Part II. 


Hopefully, the UPA’s Muslim Appeasement Agenda may be in some difficulty due to the presence of Union Home Minister P Chidambaram at Deoband, though it is true that he was not physically present when controversial Jamiat Ulama-e-Hind resolution was adopted. Neither Chidambaram nor the UPA have distanced themselves from the Jamiat decision, nor have they demanded due respect for Vande Mataram. This is equally true of every Congress or Communist state government and party apparatchik, and Hindus nationwide will have to take a call on how long they will accept to be led by political knaves who cannot even defend the National Song.


At Deoband on November 3, Chidambaram vacuously averred that it was the duty of the majority community to protect the minorities. He did not say what the offence-giving and aggressive minorities had to be protected from. Could it be Hindu assertion? Intoxicated by his own profundity, he said: “We must always remember that pluralism is our inheritance and strength… We cannot view Islam as an alien faith because this is the land of your forefathers; this is the land of your birth. It is a matter of our pride that Islam exists in India along with other major religions.”


It is impossible to fathom what he meant. Islam is alien – it was born in the sandy deserts of Arabia, as an expression of Arab nationalism. As the Arabs were a Bedouin people, it upheld the principle of expansion through acquisition of territory by conquest and conversion. Like Judaism and Christianity, Islam too has little affection for geographical boundaries – because its quest for expansion is infinite. The Prophet declared the unity and brotherhood of the believers, ummah, rather than the Arab tribes, and this has been a source of endless instability historically.


To call the existence of Islam in India a matter of pride in an era of unending jihadi homicides is cynical and irresponsible. Chidambaram must tell us why he went to Deoband in the first place – it was obviously to cut a deal of shameless realpolitik.   


As for the Jamiat brothers who wish to live by the true tenets of the true faith, do tell how the brotherhood of Islam that does not believe in the concept of nation-state, could stomach the indignity of the lands of the Prophet and the Revelation, the ancient, wise and humanist Arabia of legend, where men understood the language of the birds, to be rechristened ‘Saudi’ Arabia after a tribal upstart propped up by the British Empire to contain the Ottoman Turks? Is this proxy kingship in conformity with the tenets of Islam?


As for Hindus, it is time to insist that Pakistan (and Bangladesh) was an illegitimate creation of the British Empire, now being propped up by America. Pakistan has been a failed state from its very inception because Islam is definitionally incapable of welding Muslims into a nation.


We need to think up bold strategies of bringing these unhappy people back to the faith and culture of their ancestors, rather than let them wreak further ruin upon themselves. We must also immediately scrap the divisive Article 370 and stop pandering to the Muslim majority of Kashmir. Here again, it would be pertinent to note that if Christian missionaries can convert 10 percent of the Srinagar Valley to Christianity, this suggests that a huge population is waiting to abandon Islam. The task surely is to bring them back to the Hindu fold.


Finally, Hindus must insist that henceforth there will be no conversion in mixed marriages except to the majority faith, and no more ‘love jihad.’ In this context, BJP president Rajnath Singh recently called for a ban on conversions. This must be accompanied by monitoring funds received by minorities from abroad, and a strict vigil on the anti-national proclivities of myriad NGOs.


The writer is Editor, www.vijayvaani.com

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  Besides all that you have written. the fallowing points must be taken into a/c. as the argument that they can nt sing bandr matram, as bowing before any one other then the allah-subhano-tala is far from true from the ground reality. 1) They do bow to the mazars like hazi-ali khwaja sahib, and thorsand such mazars scattered around the county. Any one having doubt can just walk into any of these places. They may argue that not all muslim go there. only 6o% of indian muslim do so. O.K Not satisfied with this here is another glaring, undenyable fact. That for last 1200 years till date no one can enter the court of a king/nawab/rular with out bowing to the thrown. If 100% fallowers of Islam can bow th the thrown of a human being with out attacting Fatwa, i see no reason why they can not sing Bande Matram unless they are not faithful to the nation. 2) Even their arguement that in quran-a-pak allah has said that u can not bow to any one other then allah. it is a misinterpretation..Their belief is that allah is the creator, and he created the whole mankind ,no argument on that as it is their faith. That he 1st created jinns/angels shapeless/souless servant who were as invisiable as Allah him self. Then he created an idol in the shape of human. gave it life by mouth to mouth method. What was the 1st command of allah to all who he had created till then? Bow to adam the idol, and all the jinns/angels bowed to the adam. only one jinn did not, whom allah panished to be the devil banishing him from the paradise. Now if the creator was so much against bowing to any one orther himself, will he ask all his creations to bow to idol(in the shape of adam). no. then how can they say that quran-a-pak preaches not to bow before any one other then allah. More over Bande in sanskrit can mean 3 things. 1) worship 2) bow out of respect 3) it also means to praise. surely they can have no objection to that. Even allama Iqbal wrote in praise of mother india. my submission is that it is time that we fole a PIL in SC to sattle the matter once for all, as electronic media with their hearts bent to wards them may not help the cause. SIR, you as an editor may take up with your lawyer, any input needed will send it to you  
  dnkashyap  
  06 Nov 2009  
   
 
  A great piece!  
  Prakash  
  06 Nov 2009  
   
 
  Awesome write up and must be sent to all pseudo Sikularist !!  
  Wangoo  
  06 Nov 2009  
   
 
  This is precisely to the point. As long an individual holds Indian citizenship, he/she is an Indian -- nothing more, nothing less. This is not a nation built on religious preferences, unlike Israel or Saudi Arabia, Iran, among others. I am fully with Ms Jain is the demand for immediate abolition of all paraphernalia of Minority Rights. This is another instrument created to proliferate intellectual and political corruption. This must go! If the Saudis did not dish out their oil-based money overtly, or covertly, in huge suitcases, some Muslim scholars would have made it a point to make clear to all people across the world that the existence of Bedou Kings in the holiest Islamic nation is pure and unadulterated apostasy. But, money does more than talking. It creates foot soldiers.  
  Ramtanu Maitra  
  06 Nov 2009  
   
 
  It is simply marvelous ! Let's keep on pounding. Best wishes, Jagan  
  Jagan  
  06 Nov 2009  
   
 
  // Muslims must disengage from participation in the Indian polity and far from contesting elections by canvassing votes from the non-believing (Kafir) majority, much less demanding reserved seats in the Parliament and State Assemblies, Muslims must live only religious lives if they consent to be guided by ulema that insists that Religion Alone defines their identity. // Well said Sandhyaji. Congratulations for an excellent piece.  
  Thamizhchelvan  
  06 Nov 2009  
   
 
  Excellent wite-up......  
  Nagesh Sehgal  
  06 Nov 2009  
   
 
  madam ur doing a great job, keep-it- up & keep in touch,ok  
  Raghubir  
  06 Nov 2009  
   
 
  A perspicacious article by Sandhya Jain. However let us Hindus not carry the burden of bringing them into our fold. The atavistic hostilities are not going to perish that glibly. Mohammedan Invasion preceded British colonization. Why blame UK or the West for the well entrenched faultlines & fissures among us ?? Chidambaram is a wily crafty leftist in the guise of a ' liberal '. His verbiage in effect means nothing.  
  anonymous  
  06 Nov 2009  
   
 
  If bowing before anything is a problem, then they could extend the same logic to the Indian flag or even the National Anthem. The point is, you can NEVER please these guys on ANY account.Education, history, music,lyrics,democracy,food,street names, pet animals, dresses,paintings.....anything is fair game and can be taken apart by this crowd for any obscure reason in some book somewhere. Therefore, searching for their approval is not only idiotic but a complete waste of time and effort. Narrow-minded, bigoted folk are so sure of their motives and tasks! Hindus, on the other hand, are so upset by this whole business that have frozen into inaction.  
  seadog4227  
  06 Nov 2009  
   
 
  Hello Blogger Friend, Your excellent post has been back-linked in hinduonline.blogspot.com/ - a blog for Daily Posts, News, Views Compilation by a Common Hindu - Hindu Online.  
  HinduOnline.blogspot.com  
  06 Nov 2009  
   
 
  "This is equally true of every Congress or Communist state government and party apparatchik, and Hindus nationwide will have to take a call on how long they will accept to be led by political knaves who cannot even defend the National Song." ---- When Hindus continue to deify M K Gandhi why not Congress? After all they are only continuing his great act.  
  sivakumar  
  06 Nov 2009  
   
 
  The left and the undemocratic Congress will go to any extent for garnering votes. Indians wake up for the day is not far off when you might wake up in the Islamic Republic of India.  
  sarathy.amudhan  
  06 Nov 2009  
   
 
  infact vande mataram shoul be the national anthem instead of the pugnacious ode to george v written by tagore  
  ashwani  
  06 Nov 2009  
   
 
  Excellent article and well said  
  Poonam  
  07 Nov 2009  
   
 
  Lot have been written and read questioning Muslims loyalty to India since the partition. This article by Sandhya is exceptional in its contents and thought provoking for which she deserve accolades. Congratulations Sandhya for such a brilliant write up. Hope some one can read it in the parliament's next session.  
  Sadoro  
  07 Nov 2009  
   
 
  Excellent piece by Ms. Sandhya Jain with very direct points being made at the Muslims, forthright and mincing no words. Congratulations. This must be read by all important politicians in this country.  
  Nritya Singhal  
  07 Nov 2009  
   
 
  I fully agree that if the Muslims do not want to sing the national song then they should not enter politics; neither should they be supported by taxpayer money. Let them be shut in their mosques and manage their own affairs with their own money. I tell you that they will not accept the Constitution too soon, because for Muslims the Koran is the Constitution. They will also not hoist the tri-colour but only the green flag with the crescent. What is puzzling is - why this refusal to sing Vande Mataram has cropped up now? No nation will tolerate this kind of a minority demands and perception. This is because they have been pampered and the UPA government has provided them with ammunition to hit at the very base of nationhood. Being soft to terrorism was another message sent to them that this government has no guts and will keep yielding. But the people of this country will not tolerate them anymore. Which country allows two sets of laws? Our Indians in Islamic countries are tried by their laws not by ours. Their resistance to the Uniform civil code should not have been tolerated. Mrs Sonia Gandhi's price for power is the nation....cutting the tree on which she sits. Vande Mataram  
  Hilda Raja  
  07 Nov 2009  
   
 
  Muslim separatism at work.The present hyped fatwa against holy Vande Mataram is just a clever political move to concede anti-Hindu UPA some alibi to hand over Kashmir to the enemy. Since the partition the proponents of two nation theory and dubious secularists have always work in tandem. The selective amnesia of Mr P.Chidambaram must be viwed amid such chilling reality. Like Jinnah's direct action call, the opposition to Vande Mataram is an old technique to extract more concession from a pro-minority regime. I strongly support Sandya Ji on this: "As a first step, Hindus must demand that Vande Mataram be restored to its full glory; the truncated official version must henceforth be equated with iconoclasm. The song is an ode to the Mother Goddess Durga and Bharat Mata, motherland of the Hindu people, and the Goddess and Land are one and indivisible. This subtle and profound multi-dimensional perception of divinity, a unique attribute of the Hindu people, must now be allowed to bloom in its full glory in its native land". (2)"Hindus must insist that henceforth there will be no conversion in mixed marriages except to the majority faith, and no more ‘love jihad.’ In this context, BJP president Rajnath Singh recently called for a ban on conversions. This must be accompanied by monitoring funds received by minorities from abroad, and a strict vigil on the anti-national proclivities of myriad NGOs". In fact, I loved every word of this article. Regds.  
  Kuna Mohanty  
  07 Nov 2009  
   
 
  hinduonline.blogspot.com Before the grand lanch function of "Bharat Swabhiman Mission" Baba Ramdev seems to be genueinly interested in the betterment of desh, dharam, rajniti and i used to watch him on Aastha channel regularly But right from the lanch function of "Bharat Swabhiman Mission" where Babaji had invited a Shia Muslim maulaavi and introduced him as his darling brother speeches of Babaji has lost its sharpness for the protection of desh, dharam, rajniti Maybe its the price one has to pay to garner support of all residing in india and whether they are muslim it does not matter As a common hindu what more could i have done but only stopped actively watching Babaji from that lanch function though i still regard Babaji as a great yoga master and for his oratory skills But, now in the present controvercy of Devband fatva against Vande Mataram attended by Babaji and home minister hindus should protest and show their displeasure to both Babaji and home minister for agreeing to be a part of function working against the spirit of Bharat and consolidating/ fanning the Jihadi movement As politicians support Jihadis for capturing muslim vote bank is Babaji trying to capture muslim and sickular followers by agreeing to attend Jihadi function and not speacking out against the fatva then and there not even 2 days after that all this when Babaji is the most outspoken hindu guru who is more than ready to give sound bytes on each and every topic including yoga and never take any nonsense laying down from any celebrited reporters/ editors is it that like all other leaders whether they are politicians or not they are always supporting Jihadis at the cost of hindus and like them Babaji too wants to capture muslim and sickular followers and / or even Babaji fears from Jihadis O Hindus come out of your hibrenation how long you want to wait for things to get worse before trying for their recovery its easy to get charged up against Jihadis but path to recovery goes first by winning over the sickular hindus O Hindus, this is the time to lanch campainge against all sickular hindus in the form of Babaji and dont wait for RSS/ BJP/ VHP dont look forward for their orders listen to your heart/ mind Babaji has a reputation of coming out sucessfully from every controvery in the past which where lanched by sickulars but this time if common hindus campainge against his sickular tendencies at least he has to say sorry for his moments of weakness i appeal all PRO-HINDU bloggers to write-up on this topic from their heart so that greater clearity and publicity to hindu's view emerage in media also remember that blogging alone cannot provide answers to worldly problems. hinduonline.blogspot.com/2009/11/original-post-no-4-o-hindus-come-out-of.html .  
  HinduOnline.blogspot.com  
  07 Nov 2009  
   
 
  excellent, well written...  
  Deshabhakta  
  07 Nov 2009  
   
 
  Why don't we start a signature campaign to send a letter to the President saying we want Vande Mataram to be our national anthem? Any takers?  
  Sujata Srinath  
  07 Nov 2009  
   
 
  There is no law in any country which tolerates any disrespect to national anthem. Only in India, in the name of democracy and secularism we allow disrespect of our national anthem!! What a shame. Those who do not respect our national anthem, they have no right to live in our country. Shame on us, that we allow them to be fed and nurtured on our blessed soil of Bharat. God bless Bharat.  
  Lal  
  08 Nov 2009  
   
 
  >> If devout believers wish to adhere by the tenets of their faith as best as they can in a land in which they constitute a minority (Allah be praised for this significant mercy), and if this involves keeping a sharp distance from the national ethos and majority community, it follows that Muslims must disengage from participation in the Indian polity.<< No. Because, they are in a human form, and they need two pieces of bread every day. The question to be asked is why they run arround with Paki flag all the time?  
  Nagraj  
  08 Nov 2009  
   
 
  long awaited. You have nailed the issue in its heads  
  Saurav  
  08 Nov 2009  
   
 
  It is a well known fact that political ideology of islam came into existence in 5-6th centrury after christ. Now this formless God is not the invention of Muhhhammmad or Jews, infact ALl ancient Rishis, Yogis have been worshipping formless God minus violence and had been realising this Formless God by astamga Yoga practice (Plese read Patanjali Yoga darshamanam/Autobiography of Yogi - by paramhansa yogananda). Entire vedas only Talk of Formless God, Lord Krishna, Nanak only had spoken truth about God with realisation. But the difference between Vedas and Quran is Quran is extremely violent, prejudiced and danger to humanity and civilisation. Infact Every civilisation Owe a lot to India and Rishis who were light of wisdom and true knower of ultimate secrets of creation and God. Please read Swami dayanand Saraswatis commentries on Vedas, vast Yogic and vedic literature of India. I am quoting vedic mantras, interpretation is by swami ramswarup ji, vedmandir, ------------------------- Regarding GOD Yajurveda Mantra 40/8 states : "SA PRAYYAGAACHHUKRAMKAYAMVRANNAMSNAVIRAM SHUDHAMPAAPVIDHAM. KAVIRMANISHIPARIBHUHU SWAYAMBHURYATHATATHYATOARTHAN VYADDHACHHSHVATIDHYAHA SAMAABHYAHA". Yajurveda mantra 40/8 states that God is "SHUKRAM" Almighty, "AKAYAM" i.e bodiless, so does not take birth, "AVRANNAM" hole less and can not be converted into any part, so soul is also not a part of God, "ASNAVIRAM" i.e without nervous system, etc., "APAAPVIDHAM" sinless and does not love to those who are sinners, "PARI + AGAAT" i.e omnipresent, "KAVIHI" omniscient, "MANISHIHI" knows thoughts of every soul, "PARIBHUHU" who keeps behind the culprits/sinners, "SWAYAMBHUHU" who is eternal/beyond death and birth/has no father, mother etc. "SHAASHVATIBHYAHA SAMABHYAH" for eternal living beings, "YATHATATHYATAH" with truth, "ARTHAN" gives knowledge of all through Vedas, "VYADADHAAT" preaches , "SAH" He is GOD. Yajurveda mantra 32/1 reflects following qualities of God:- "TADEVAGNISTADADITYASTAD VAYUSTADU CHANDRAMAHA, TADEV SHUKRAM TAD BRAHMA TAAAPAHA SA PRAJAPATI" The God is omniscient, everlasting, source of divine pleasure, immortal, pure, kind supreme judge, creator of universe, bearer and maintainer of universe. He is (Agni) omnipresent, (Aditya) form of light and immortal(Vaya) has unlimited divine powers and holds the universe, (CHANDRAMA) form of divine pleasure and gives the same to the worshipper (SHUKRAM) alive and Almighty (BRAHMA) most supreme (Apah ) omnipresent (Prajapati) lord of the universe. ----------------- Infact Indians have always worshipped formless God, realised him but never advocated barbarity and heinous crimes on his names So time to tell muslims the truth if truly want to worship formless God, study Vedas and do yoga, contact a yogi, else live in dark ages. Rashmi  
  Rashmi sahu  
  10 Nov 2009  
   

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