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Nityananda videos – testing time for Hindus 
Radha Rajan
05 Mar 2010

Sanyasis exemplify the purpose of human birth as Hindus - to understand the nature of the self. This knowledge or this understanding reveals to the individual the boundaries and the boundlessness of the self. Sanyasis know the limits of not only the body but also the mind. Paradoxically, it is the limited mind which gives us the sense of limitlessness too, and the sanyasi in saffron robes best represents this stunning paradox.

 

Knowledge of the self comes with the attendant knowledge of the nature and source of Creation. With this knowledge, which Hindus call para vidya, the individual may choose to live the life of an enlightened householder or grihasta, or may choose to become a sanyasi.

 

The sanyasi, for his part, may choose to live in society as a guru or acharya or simply as a sanyasi; or he may choose to leave society behind to live the life of a recluse. What distinguishes the enlightened householder from an enlightened sanyasi is the colour of his clothes. The sanyasi dons the saffron robes not for him, but for the rest of us in society. An enlightened man in saffron robes is like a vehicle with a beacon light on top – it is meant to convey something to those who see it.

 

The sanyasi embodies the quintessential Hindu worldview which demands that a Hindu does not disturb the innate harmony and order in Creation. In short, a sanyasi embodies every Hindu’s journey to fulfill the purpose of human life as understood and articulated by our rishis because, as the opening line of Vivekachudamini puts it pithily, of all births or all existence in Creation, it is rarest of rare to be born a (Hindu) human. A sanyasi is therefore the embodiment of rigorous discipline of mind and body, or perfect order.

 

A sanyasi is expected, by definition, to live a life that does not pamper the body; and the body by definition is an aggregate of five senses. A sanyasi, the enlightened man in saffron robes, is the exemplar in society who is expected minimally to keep his body under the full control of his mind by tapasya; maximally, he should be seen to have attained the perfect unity and harmony of existence with para vidya.

 

The sanyasi as the embodiment of the Hindu worldview and as the immediate instrument of the knowledge that is transmitted through the guru-sishya parampara is therefore the highest and most important entity of Hindu dharma.

 

The videos of Nityananda broadcast by a leading Tamil news channel, at the very least, rendered the sanyasi’s saffron robes meaningless and without purpose. Consensual sex or physical intimacy between two adults behind closed doors is a private affair and violation of that privacy can and must be made punishable under law; but a sanyasi whose saffron robes have a definite meaning in Hindu dharma, and who has chosen to play a role in public life as a sanyasi, cannot claim right of privacy for what is essentially an act that violates sanyasa dharma.

 

For all those who reposed faith in Nitaynanda’s integrity to sanyasa dharma, these are agonizing days. As bhaktas of Nityananda, there are only two options open to them. If the videos are genuine, then the bhaktas must realize that they are born in a tradition where every institution is subject to inquiry and if called for, repudiation. If the bhaktas are forced to reject Nityananda as Guru, they must return to the traditional mathams and acharyas of their ancestors.

 

It is just as possible that the videos are compromised and if that is so, it is hoped that these bhaktas will challenge the authenticity of the videos in court and if the videos are proved to have been manipulated or morphed, they should ask for maximum punishment under the law against the news channel which broadcast the videos. This alone will deter future misadventures to malign Hindu dharma. The bhaktas then would not only have won the war to restore the honour of their guru, they would have won a battle for Hindu dharma as a whole.

 

However, the issue of Nityananda’s videos is only peripheral to the purpose of this column. This column is concerned about the impact of these terrible videos on the Hindu Dharma Acharya Sabha. Nityananada is one of the Hindu Founders-Patron of the Global Foundation for Civilizational Harmony or GFCH, a body that merits the severest criticism for its stated objectives.

 

Hindus on Hindu bhumi have to take a collective stand on three issues – demand complete ban on religious conversion to Abrahamic faiths, stop all foreign funds to NGOs and religious institutions, including Hindu institutions, and an autonomous board for administering and overseeing all Hindu temples and Hindu religious institutions.

 

Hindus on Hindu bhumi are confronting the most menacing threat ever to their survival on this bhumi from the Abrahamic faiths and their respective state power – Islamic and White Christian nations and their governments. The three core concepts of pluralism, freedom of religion and self-determination, imported from Christianity’s contemporary liberal democracy incarnation, define the character of contemporary understanding of nation and good governance.

 

Hindus have failed to challenge these concepts in any meaningful way in any domestic or international forum and this failure signifies that Hindus in government and Hindu thinkers and leaders either do not realize the end-objective of these concepts or are so compromised that they dare not challenge them.

 

GFCH exemplifies this Hindu failure to perceive the threats posed by the Abrahamic faiths; if the Hindu Founders-Patron of GFCH understood the nature of the threat they would not have created the forum in the first place with the self-destructive objectives that they flaunt with such élan.

 

The defining characteristic of all Hindu Founders-Patron of the GFCH, including Nityananda, is that they all have ashrams in several White Christian countries in America and Europe and have overseas NRIs, PIOs, and non-Indians as bhaktas. These sanyasis have accumulated huge assets as immovable property in these countries and their ashrams depend heavily on foreign funds.

 

If Hindus in India, as a part of their war to protect the Hindu bhumi have to take on the US, the EU and the UN on the issue of religious conversion, foreign funds, the character of this nation and the basis of nationhood, it is legitimate to question whether these sanyasis with foreign bhaktas, foreign funds and assets abroad are in a position to fight this war.

 

Just as important is the question, what will overseas Hindus do when Hindus at home are fighting the American government on the question of religious conversion and the role of foreign funds in subverting the nation and the role of the UN in facilitating the subversion. And this confrontation is certain to happen. The answer is ‘nothing’. They have done nothing, they can do nothing, and they dare not do anything. More importantly, they will not be allowed to do anything that can shake even a stone in the political and strategic interest edifice that has been put in place by these governments.

 

The American government has shown repeatedly how it deals with its adversaries – individuals, communities and nations.

 

And that is why this writer has taken strong exception to the following –

-        Swami Dayananda Saraswati as Founder-Patron of GFCH and Convener HDAS forging an undesirable and even potentially dangerous link between the two organizations whose objectives are mutually contradictory

 

-        The growing influence of overseas Hindus – NRIs and PIOs influencing the functioning and purpose of HDAS

 

-        Swami Dayananda Saraswati and unnamed others on his behalf participating in and signing resolutions and agreements at multi-religious meetings which conform to and do not challenge the 3 cardinal liberal Christian political concepts – pluralism, freedom of religion and self-determination

 

-        Swami Dayananda Saraswati while holding the position of Convener HDAS, actively promoting inter-faith dialogue without getting the Abrahamic religions to concede anything in our favour

 

The HDAS is the highest body of Hindu religious leaders representing ancient sampradayas and lineages. Their constituency is here, on Hindu bhumi. They have to be on the side of their bhaktas when they fight to protect dharma on this bhumi. They cannot be weakened by considerations of foreign bhaktas, foreign funds or assets in foreign lands. Protecting Hindu dharma on this bhumi and protecting assets abroad are two mutually exclusive objectives.

 

Hindu Dharma Acharyas on this bhumi will have to demand total ban on religious conversion and end the flow of all foreign funds into this country. GFCH, by the very character of its Hindu Founders-Patron, cannot do this; by being linked to the HDAS through Swami Dayananda Saraswati and his bhaktas, the HDAS is similarly disabled.

 

Nityananda with his foreign funds, foreign bhaktas and foreign ashrams has exposed how this foreign connection can render our religious leaders, in their efforts to attract the young in our societies and foreigners raised on a ‘liberal’ diet, compromise their anushthana or rigorous adherence to rituals which discipline the body and mind. This slackening of discipline renders them vulnerable to penetration and infiltration.

 

Swami Dayananda Saraswati must therefore either disassociate himself from the GFCH or step down as Convener of the HDAS. This is not a disrespectful proposition as it is being made out to be by thoughtless and/or manipulative Hindus. This demand springs from an unflinching commitment to protect our sanyasis and high religious institutions from infamy and manipulation by our adversaries through the agency of useful idiots.  

 

Hindus who bounce around on email groups working themselves up into phony hysterics because some of us dare place counter-arguments and courageous Hindu nationalist ideas in the public domain, run the risk of diminishing themselves from the high status of useful idiots serving overseas interests to useless idiots at home.

 

The author is editor, www.vigilonline.com

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  User Comments:
 
  I am not a follower of Nithyanda and I do not know him from Adam, but what strikes me odd is the trouble Sun TV had undergone to expose ( if true) this sorry episode.The obvious question is: When was the last time ANY of the news channel had gone to this length in exposing any one of the child molesting, nun raping christian priests? Also, why there are no questions from any of the TV chanels, about the morality preaching TN CM, when he publicaly parades his TWO wives? I do say this CM has the nerve to criticize Nithyanada. By the way Radhaji, I as an NRI I have only the interests of India and Hinduisim at heart. With my friends , we are trying to fund few projects in India ( Ekal Vidyalaya for example). Of course we not perfect but we try!  
  Rama  
  05 Mar 2010  
   
 
  Just 3 years ago, the Catholic church paid out USD 65 million as "compensation" for child molestation by their "priests" in the USA alone. However, Swami Nityananda's case is different because of the high standards we have imposed on ourselves. Once the person has embarked on a spiritual journey, he is to gradually work towards being an "urdhvaretas". It is said that at least 11 years of strict "brahmacharya" is required to reach that state. The status of "sannyasa" is assumed by anybody today without pre-requisites. Not so long ago, Swami Chinmayananda's guru, Tapovan Maharaj, inspite of his thorough knowledge and arduous spiritual practices, formally sought permission for entering "sanyasa". On the other hand, in the Iyengar sampradaya, most sannyasis are formerly "grihastas", which makes their approach more rational, less arduous and realistic in today's social scenario. I hope some clarification is forthcoming from Swami Nityananda.  
  seadog4227  
  05 Mar 2010  
   
 
  Here's the clarification: Swami moves court to restrain media http://expressbuzz.com/ CHENNAI: Swami Nithyananda moved a civil court in the city on Wednesday to restrain the Sun TV from telecasting any video clippings and newspapers from publishing any article or photograph about him. The XV Assistant Judge A Manickavasagar of the city civil court in Chennai ordered notice and posted the petition for further hearing on March 8. The newspapers and a magazine the godman wanted restrained are Dinakaran, Tamil Murasu and Nakkeeran. In his petition, Nithyananda submitted that he had 45 lakh devotees in 17 countries and was conducting free medical camps, besides providing education to the needy. While so, one of the inmates of his mutt, Premananda alias Lenin Karuppan, was attempting to tarnish his image. Using the information technology, he had morphed and released the videograph, which was being repeatedly telecast by Sun TV. Doctored video, says mission IN its response to the scandalous videos on Sun TV, Paramahamsa Nithyananda Mission’s website issued a statement saying that the videos were doctored. “At this moment, we feel that a mix of conspiracy, graphics and rumour is at play in these recent events that have unfolded. We are working on a legal course of action and will come up with updates in due course,” the website said. The statement went on to reassure the god man’s devotees that Nithyananda has been a transformational force in the lives of over two million people across the world. “For those who have experienced the blessings and grace of Swamiji, no further explanation is necessary. Yet we request you to recall the life solutions from Swamiji that continue to provide a powerful spiritual anchor for millions in these turbulent times. We wish to reiterate that Nithyananda Dhyanapeetam is a worldwide movement which is committed to bringing about a true awakening for all, irrespective of race, culture or nation,” it further said.  
  seadog4227  
  05 Mar 2010  
   
 
  Most surprising part is the response this swami episode evoked. Whole of yesterday forenoon Twitter had nothing else on time line. both mle & female sounding aroused chuckled over it. None looked shocked. It lasted hours till climax was reached by evening. It was macabre. Everyone was interested to know who were the celebs found on video and where video could be found. This India's perverted sex-starved body and soul  
  T N Khanna  
  05 Mar 2010  
   
 
  "And this confrontation is certain to happen. The answer is ‘nothing’. They have done nothing, they can do nothing, and they dare not do anything." I think thats a vert offensive statement and also shows the author has no idea of what oversea Hindus have done and are doing to defend Hinduism exposing the anti hindu networks in india and their connections abroad...And maybe shes needs to go abroad and see for herself..  
  Arjun  
  05 Mar 2010  
   
 
  quote : Swami Dayananda Saraswati must therefore either disassociate himself from the GFCH or step down as Convener of the HDAS. This is not a disrespectful proposition. unquote : I am not a disciple of Swami Dayananda Saraswati. But, the above two choices are certainly disrespectful to 80+ years aged swami who has contributed a lot throughout his life for vedanta and hindu cause. Why can not a third alternative be tried. That Swami Dayananda Saraswati continue to head both GFCH and HDAS but let a modification be made in the objectives of GFCH by incorporating the following viz., 1. A total Ban on conversion to Abrahamic faiths in Bharath on the ground that that such a conversion is harmful to civilisational harmony. 2. Highlight and Oppose in world forums the expansionist ideology of White Christian Religion enshrined in the trinity concept of pluralism, freedom of religion and self-determination. Last but not least a clear cut decision need to be taken on participation in inter faith dialogues by hindu monks. whether one like it or not, the weapon of white christians, i.e, interfaith dialogue has become the order of the day. Why only single out christianity, those who have seen "Peace urdu TV" would have noticed very big congregations of people wherein open calls of conversion to "Islam" given by Islamic theologist Dr.Zakir Naik. Rather than ignoring such inter faith dialogues, why not take a decision to participate in such dialogues and record dissent voice of hindus effectively.  
  krishna kumar  
  06 Mar 2010  
   
 
  Whether the allegations against Nityanand is true or false. Here the question is the veracity of the approach of the Indian media towards the Hindu related matters. Insted of Nityananda if it is a saint or priest from an Abrahamic religion what should be the approach of the same media? Now a Catholic priest Antony Lasser is in jail for the muder of a nurse. What is the extend of its media coverage? The mysterious deaths of nus in the Catholic Convents of Kerala is no more a news to Sury TV or others! What about the mysterious deaths and sexual origy in the Muringoor Divine Centre of Kerala? It is high time to react against the double dealing of the media.  
  Prof. C.I.Issac  
  07 Mar 2010  
   
 
  It seems that the entire news media is an exercise in propoganda. Whether it is Suntv or Jayatv or NDTVor CNN, all of them have established and well known ideological positions that what we hear as news is merely opinion and ideology passing as news. This is how propoganda is done in a democracy.  
  K . Harapriya  
  07 Mar 2010  
   
 
  yes certainly. what we see in visual media news and read in print media news are not as such happening reported by them as they have happened. the happenings are peppered with secular mirch and ghulami namakh (supplies to these media barons by church and gulf). If christians day in and day out hurl abuses on hindu gods, that is art and culture to these media perverts and when MP Govt gives notification for teaching of suryanamaskar and gita gyan in schools, that is reported as destruction of democratic and pluralistic norms. during moghul rule jaichands were exception an during secular rule jaichands are the rule. mera bharath mahan  
  krishna kumar  
  07 Mar 2010  
   
 
  It is a always a delightful experience to read Prof Isaac. Prof Isaac you must read http://www.davidkertzer.com/books/kidnapping_of_edgardo_mortara.html http://www.davidkertzer.com/books/prisoner_of_the_vatican.html http://www.davidkertzer.com/books/popes_against_the_jews.html Please read the following article by Prof D Kertzer http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/09/opinion/the-modern-use-of-ancient-lies.html?pagewanted=1 If you want I can post the entire article part by part. In fact Prof Kertzers books if edited and produced as a single book would be " The Alternative History of Christianity" . Great work , must read. One must thank One Mr JM Smith for posting this site.  
  gajanan  
  07 Mar 2010  
   
 
  Dear all, I have said this before but I say it again, a wounded bhakta is like a wounded animal; it wrenches our heart. The truth or otherwise about the videos is best established by any of the important Hindu Founders-Patron of GFCH calling the Maran brothers and asking them point blank about the veracity of the videos. The Marans will not dare to lie to people of the stature of Pujya Swami Dayanandaji or Baba Ramdev. Once the truth is established then the Hindu religious eladers in GFCH can provide the bhaktas with the guidance to act further. If true, what they should now do; if false how they must persevere with the case in court until Sun TV is punished in an exemplary manner by the courts. Talking to the Maran brothers must be done speedily. I canr see them refusing to talk to someone of the eminence of Pujya Swamiji. Shri Arjun my point about Hindu helplessness abroad is about confronting the american government. I have NOT said that Hindua broad dont do anything to serve dharma. Pl be acareful about the meanings you impute.  
  Radha Rajan  
  08 Mar 2010  
   
 
  >>>"The truth or otherwise about the videos is best established by any of the important Hindu Founders-Patron of GFCH calling the Maran brothers and asking them point blank about the veracity of the videos."<<< Why Maran brothers, why not Rajasekaran ? Why not Ranjitha ? >>>>"The Marans will not dare to lie to people of the stature of Pujya Swami Dayanandaji or Baba Ramdev."<<<<<. But Rajasekaran may do so ? >>>>"a wounded bhakta is like a wounded animal; it wrenches our heart. "<<<<< Isn't it better that truth came out at least now ?. .namaste.  
  Incognito  
  08 Mar 2010  
   
 
  Call both parties and conduct a trial with lawyers, psychiatrists , and conduct it in a soccer stadium, in front of a huge crowd with live telecast by a neutral channel ( of course in this lobby age, it is difficult to find one) and just settle the issue.  
  Muthu  
  09 Mar 2010  
   
 
  Rajasekar has said in his latest video that he had not done anything ILLEGAL. This is more or less a confession from him that he did have sexual relationship with one of his diciple.( apparently,the actress initially seeked his guidance and advise and became his diciple). Though it was legal, it was also immoral and against Hindu dhrama.  
  Rama  
  09 Mar 2010  
   
 
  I was surprised how uncharacteristic it was for the Hindu devotees to go on rampage ( a la the all too familiar Cartoon reaction and the like, not ot forget Rushdie reaction). Hindus will never do such acts of attacking the Ashrams at several locations. Real estate sharks jumping into the field demanding Swami's expulsion from the grounds made it even more perplexing. It is getting curiouser and curioser - so to speak!  
  gaurav  
  09 Mar 2010  
   
 
  Today's TOI has the godman's Bangalore spokesman refusing to deny that the actor in the video is their man. But this is really beside the point. Ask the godman's friends and sponsors why a law suit was not slapped on Sun TV the first day the video was aired; on the second day at least, if it couldn't be done on the first; or, dear me, on the third day? Why have no law suits be initiated till today against Sun TV and the newspapers? Why has Subramaniam Swamy kept quiet in the face of this smear on sadhus and Hindu culture? Why has that windbag with the Blackberry who is always shooting mails, not initiated a law suit or criminal case in the US courts? He knows a crime has been committed in that pornographic materials made with the intent to defame character have passed through the US postal system. That is a crime. Shooting mails is easy, but thinking is really hard work isn't it? Why has the godman's sponsors in that theosophical outfit the GFCH kept quiet? Why has HDAS not created a full-time, dedicated legal department that will act immediately and forcefully when aspersions of any kind are directed at Hindu religion, Hindu representatives and any other Hindu interest? Law suits should be issued and public apologies demanded from anybody and everybody, and for every action that smacks of anti-Hindu prejudice. Law suits can always be withdrawn later, but they must be issued immediately to be effective when dealing with the media. The godman's friends cannot play the Dalit caste card. He is a known commodity here and it is very much a Mudaliar commodity. SDS  
  SDS  
  10 Mar 2010  
   
 
  RR - You have again proved that you have stupid and idiotic ideas and suggestions. Just say that yu have two enemies - NRIs and Swami Dayanand Saraswati. That will be the end of it. You unnecessarily pulling the NRIs and Swamiji for whatever happens on earth for which they have no control is highly prepostioruous and condemnable. RR's fans - Please can you explain the rationale bhind this article? If Nityananada is wrong, he is wrong. He will be punished. If he is right, then the criminals who did this will be punished. NRIs and Swamiji have no control over these events. And they should not. Please do us a favour RR. Quit writing. Or at least quit writing against Swamiji and NRIs.  
  S Vasan  
  10 Mar 2010  
   
 
  RR has never said that NRIs and Swami Dayananda Saraswati are her enemies. In fact, she has always referrred to Swamiji with respect. She has only been suggested what Swamiji must do for Hindu society's sake. Keep up your good work and keep writing, Radha-ji. Indira  
  Indira Oorath  
  10 Mar 2010  
   
 
  There is a difference in Prof Isaac writing and RR writing. Prof Isaac being an academic is very incisive and analytical. RR is very good, straight to the point , but a bit emotional. For example Prof Isaac has rightly pointed out the picture of the church and emphatically says as to why the church sexploits has been not been hyped like the Hindu one , which is very true. Till the Hindus have no good media support in India as well as globally, it will be a one way traffic.  
  gajanan  
  11 Mar 2010  
   
 
  Shri Gajanan, 'emotional' is a derisive desription which men unfailingly use to diminish women when they do not have the answers to issues raised. And pl dont impose western parameters to writing that all scholarship must be free of emotions which is even otherwise a lie. You have to fault me on facts, style is subjective and being emotional is my prerogative. Condescencion is a bureaucratic weapon and completely ineffective on me.  
  Radha Rajan  
  11 Mar 2010  
   
 
  Dude Gajanan, if Prof Issac and Radha Rajan are different people, then their writing is bound to be different isnt it? So why make your commonplace observation into some profound truth. And like the other repetetive dude Vasan, you havent taken in any of the dead serious points made by Radha. Dude Vasan you have ordered Radha to stop writing or stop writing about Swami Dayananda and NRIs. You are saying NRIs are equal to Swami Dayananda? That's a new one. Then why are you snivelling when Radha says a section of the NRIs and PIOs are trying to influence the HDAS through the GFCH, particularly through Swami Dayanandaji? You are simply tying yourself up in knots.  
  S Bhavatharini  
  11 Mar 2010  
   
 
  Dudette Bhavatharini - I never knew you were so stupid. Thanks for bringing that into light. Only your language is flowerly, but it has no meanings. If I say RR is against NRIs and Swamiji, where on earth does it mean they are same? Why the heck are you putting words into my mouth? I just said that she is against them through my observations of her writings. She does not have any dead serious points. She has points that are already dead and gone. She is just selfish and her attacks against Swamiji is purely personal because of her persoanl problems with the NRIs and "Chennai clique". She is only repetetitve with pulling Swamiji and NRIs for all the mistakes that happen on earth. Take a break dudette Bhavatharini, RR and her fans. And she bringing in feminism/male chauvinism against Gajanan's observations show her true colour. Please grow up. Dont whine and cry.  
  S Vasan  
  11 Mar 2010  
   
 
  Dude Vasan, I can't put words into your mouth; you already have both your feet stuck there from long time ago. And if her points are dead and gone, and if you are spluttering in rage, it means her points are neither dead nor have they gone away. No and I dont think Radha is saying NRIs and Swamiji are responsible for all problems on earth - maybe just of them, hohohoho. And Radha is not alone in interpreting dude Gajanan's remark as being sexist. I did too. And your speaking of Swamiji and NRIs in the same breath is Freudian.  
  S Bhavatharini  
  11 Mar 2010  
   
 
  HOhohohohohohoho.......Gajanan telling that RR is good, straight to the point doesnt matter for you people....But he telling that RR is just a bit emotional makes you people bring the roof down. Writers or for that matter anyone should be open to criticsm and I clearly see that point of his as constructive. Both your reactions show how closed you are in your approach to life. If you cant take criticsm - both constructive and destructive, you cant succeed. And me reacting to her (RR) rantings doesnt in any way mean that her points are valid and real and live. I am just point out that she is beating a dead snake(issues) again and again. And you havent acknowledged the fact that I pointed out your misunderstanding of NRIs and Swamiji in the same breath. Again Ladies - Please grow up.  
  S Vasan  
  11 Mar 2010  
   
 
  It is significant that not a single commentator, including S Vasan, has been able to point out a single mistake or fault in Radha Rajan's articles except impute motives. This is a standard communist trick. It won't work any more. Indira Oorath  
  Indira Oorath  
  11 Mar 2010  
   
 
  Dumbdudedodo Vasan, why dont you drink some of your own advise - open to criticism both constructive and destructive, your reactions shoe how closed you are in your approach to life, dead snake, grow up. Vasan every one of these priceless recommendations will serve you well too and as for dead snake, well it seems to have bitten you. You are venomous. Dude, take a deep breath and come to terms with your own silliness. As Indira is pointing out, you have not been able to point to one factual error or even misrepresentation.  
  S Bhavatharini  
  12 Mar 2010  
   
 
  Indiraji writes: It is significant that not a single commentator, including S Vasan, has been able to point out a single mistake or fault in Radha Rajan's articles except impute motives. This is a standard communist trick. It won't work any more. Indira Oorath 11 Mar 2010 -#- Hello Indiraji, In a class, a teacher normally corrects what a student writes - only when there are "some" mistakes. If every line has too many mistakes, I think the teacher will get fedup. { I can tell you this from my experience - so you can now guess how poor a student I was }. And I see I do have good company here, in Radhaji and her "fans". By the way,(1) what do you understand by "para vidya" ? (2) give the geographical "limitation" of Hindu Bhumi (3)RR writes "What distinguishes the enlightened householder from an enlightened sanyasi is the colour of his clothes." Can any one pl explain that statement? To my limited understanding, an enlightened house holder is only an enlightened house holder and only when he decides to pursue the moksha for which he need to do the studies of our Sastras theu "shravana, manana and nidhidhyasana" then the normal duties as a house holder becomes a hinderance and so he gives up all that and that is called sanyasa. Infact, I think Bruhad Aranyaka Upanishad talks about this thru Yajnavalkya . (5) RR writes "The sanyasi dons the saffron robes not for him, but for the rest of us in society. An enlightened man in saffron robes is like a vehicle with a beacon light on top – it is meant to convey something to those who see it." - >me< of course the saffron is to convey something. But if it is like tbe "beacon light on top of a vehicle, does it mean that we all need to keep away from them [ as we normally give way to such vehicles ] ? Would some one try to explain what does that indicate? (6) Since I find RR is too much into this "women vs men" contraversy can any of RR's "fans" or even RR explain the position of Hinduism wrto "men vs women" .(7) again RR writes " In short, a sanyasi embodies every Hindu’s journey to fulfill the purpose of human life as understood and articulated by our rishis because, as the opening line of Vivekachudamini puts it pithily, of all births or all existence in Creation, it is rarest of rare to be born a (Hindu) human...">me< Is Viveka chudamani talks about ..."...born a (Hindu) human..." or only about "human" ? Is that word "(Hindu)" an addition by RR or any one else and if it is by anyone else, can that ref be given pl? ..... the list is endless and one can go on and on...but let us see if a poor me can get some education thru replies to the issues raised above? thanks and namaskaram  
  ram mohan  
  12 Mar 2010  
   
 
  One comment by Gajanan has been removed because it had a very long url which was shaking the website and disturbing the internal setting. Anyone posting urls must take care that the long ones are split in rows and do not disturb the layout. Regards, Editor, www.vijayvaani.com  
  EDITOR  
  12 Mar 2010  
   
 
  RR and her fans - First, I am not a communist. Second I have clearly pointed out here and in my responses to RR's previous artciles that Swamiji and NRis are not to be blamed for anything that goes wrong in the Hindu society. Because as I said, her motive behind writing these articles against Swamiji, GFCH, HDAS, HDRS, chennai clique, NRIs are all selfish and personal. So whatever she writes does not warrant any "sentence by sentence" responses (at least by me). Her overall idea and motive is clearly seen. And it has also been proved from the responses so far that she has lost quite a bit of following because of her outburst against Swamiji and NRIs. And of course few fans like me who have become ex-fans after knowing the truth and reading her articles. And I have no problems in taking criticsm. Everybody knows who was closed and who cried and who manipulated the discussion into a male/female course.  
  S Vasan  
  12 Mar 2010  
   
 
  "Her (RR's) motive is clearly seen," says Vasan but does not say what that 'motive' could be. As I see, her only motive is to serve and save Hindu society. RR has always referred to Swami Dayananda Saraswati with great respect, though of course, she has shown the courage to point out his errors. As for NRIs, though many of them are generous in charity, RR and Sandhya Jain have a point in saying that many of them do not fully understand the problems faced by Hindus residing in India. Contrary to what Vasan thinks, I am sure Radha Rajan has not lost even a single 'fan' (though it is not a suitable word). Readership of her scintillating articles can only increase. Indira Oorath  
  Indira Oorath  
  12 Mar 2010  
   
 
  Indiraji writes " RR has always referred to Swami Dayananda Saraswati with great respect, though of course, she has shown the courage to point out his errors." >me< It is so nice to read that " RR has always referred Sw Dayanandaji with great respect..." Why; I think that is very revealing line. Let me copy paste here # The Hindu Dharma Acharya Sabha through no fault of its own, but because of the decision made by the Convener and the Chennai clique, was thus coerced into reneging on its promise to protect dharma and the dharmi..# [ I think this is from the part 1 of RR's article ] It exhibits RR's great respect is it not? But then a new question need to be asked, how can RR respect a person who is"making" decisions and who allows himself to be "thus coerced into reneging on its promise to protect dharma and dharmi..".  
  ram mohan  
  12 Mar 2010  
   
 
  Indiraji further writes " As for NRIs, though many of them are generous in charity, RR and Sandhya Jain have a point in saying that many of them do not fully understand the problems faced by Hindus residing in India." >>me<< Well, again, I wonder if Indians living in India too understand the problems faced by Hindus residing in India - and if that could be correct even in small percentage, how and why should NRI be blamed for their inability to understand the problems of Hindus residing in India? Reading RR and Sandhy,(sometimes) makes one feel that greatest threat to Hindus in "Hindubhumi" is from NRIs and PIOs.{ though I will never know that constitutes the geographical boundaries of this Hindu bhumi".} I will be happy to know that I am wrong in this thinking.  
  ram mohan  
  12 Mar 2010  
   
 
  http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/opinions/5839781.cms === if ever any one see this page, suggest them to go thru the opinions of 99 people - varied opinions and most probably not sensored !! enjoy  
  rammohan  
  21 Apr 2010  
   

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