Myth of Christian contribution to Tamil – 5
by Thamizhchelvan on 25 Jul 2010 38 Comments

According to the website www.cathnewsindia.com, “It was Father Xavier Stanislaus Thaninayagam who founded the International Association of Tamil Research and called the first International Conference of Tamil Studies in 1965. That event ultimately led to this year’s highly prestigious conference”.

(http://www.cathnewsindia.com/2010/06/29/priests-honored-for-saving-tamil-language/)

 

While one can agree that Father Thaninayagam founded the IATR, one can only say that the claim of his IATR leading to the just-concluded First World Classical Tamil Conference is dubious. In fact, the Christian website should have had the courage to say IATR refused to conduct the World Tamil Conference this year despite a request from Karunanidhi.

 

Yet it attempts to take credit for the event even though Karunanidhi ignored IATR and went ahead with the First World Classical Tamil Conference, wherein he announced the setting up of “World Tolkappiyar Classical Tamil Sangam” (WTCTS) to the utter shock of IATR.

 

Depending on the political climate, both may merge tomorrow, for the Church is capable of going any lengths to establish its ‘love’ for Tamil. The IATR has conducted 8 conferences in the last 45 years, of which one was a DMK conference (Madras, 1968, when Annadurai was CM), two were AIADMK conferences (Madurai, 1981, by MGR and Thanjavur, 1995, by Jayalalithaa); the remaining five (Kuala Lumpur1966, Paris 1970, Jaffna 1974, Kuala Lumpur 1987, Mauritius 1989) were relatively lacklustre.

 

And what did the Tamil language, literature, archaeology or culture receive from these eight conferences - NOTHING! Undeniably, the just concluded Classical Tamil Conference was also a DMK jamboree. Television channels clearly confirmed this through their live telecasts. And Christian domination was also quite visible in this conference, which again underlined the Christian-Dravidian nexus.

 

Rev. Thamil Nesan, in his article on Rev. Thaninayagam in the Christian website www.transcurrents.com says, “At this memorable occasion (Tamil Meet at Coimbatore), it is very much appropriate to remember gratefully Rev. Prof. Thaninayagam (1913–1980) who toiled hard and dedicated his entire life to make Tamil Language, Tamil Literature and Tamil Culture better known and appreciated in the world… The name, having served so well this Catholic ambassador of Tamil culture, now stands immortalised in the history of the Tamil people and Tamil Studies… Since he was well versed in many European Languages and their literatures, he was able to blaze a trail in the comparative study of Tamil Literature with the literature of European Languages”.

(http://transcurrents.com/tc/2010/06/contribution_of_sri_lankan_tam.html)

 

A question arises, what is Tamil culture or rather, what do these Christians define as Tamil culture? Is there such a thing as Hindi culture, Telugu culture, Marathi culture, Gujarati culture, Bengali culture, when all the Bharatiya language communities are united by a single civilisational inheritance, that is, the Hindu in inspiration? That is the culture of this Hindu Bhumi! There may be minor differences in customs and rituals, but the culture and tradition are one and the same. Though the spoken languages are diverse, the Gods and Goddesses, festivals and way of living are all the same for ages. In the Hindu way, Unity is not at odds with Diversity; indeed, Diversity flows from Unity.

 

In the above mentioned article Father Thamil Nesan says, “Tamil festivals are celebrated in many parts. All this was possible, thanks to the strenuous efforts by one individual: Xavier S. Thaninayagam, a Catholic Priest from Jaffna.” He does not list the so-called Tamil Festivals. If we ask the Dravidian racists who changed the traditional ‘Tamil New Year’ to list out the Tamil festivals, they would come out with only one – Pongal, also claimed as Thamizhar Thirunaal. Yet this is none other than the Makara Sankranti celebrated throughout India. But what about other festivals celebrated by Tamils? The Dravidian racists have not included them as they are Hindu festivals.

 

So why did Father Thamil Nesan use the word “Tamil Festivals”? Here is the answer! In course of his article Thamil Nesan says, “Fr. Thaninayagam has made a tremendous contribution towards internationalising Tamil Studies. He was a Catholic priest who championed Tamil Culture”. As Tamils world over celebrate each and every festival with great fanfare, would it not have added respect and pride to Father Thaninayagam had the Christians addressed him as a “Champion of Hindu culture”? They wouldn’t have, because they wanted to remove the Hindu identity of the Tamils! They have not said “Indian culture” either. Destroying “Hindu” identity and establishing “Tamil” identity would be possible only by hijacking the language, literature and culture. That is why all Christian missionaries have been projected as champions of Tamil, Tamil literature and Tamil culture.

 

Thamil Nesan literally confesses:

“….Fr. Thaninayagam, an ardent advocate and zealous Apostle of Tamil language of the 20th century… From his younger days, he was quite conscious of the linguistic and literary talents that God had given him and he cultivated them well in order to use them in the service of God and men. As a priest he made a deep study of the Tamil language and literature in order to equip himself better for his ministry among the Tamil speaking people of South India and Sri Lanka… Fr. Thaninayagam has made a tremendous contribution towards internationalising Tamil Studies. He was a Catholic priest who championed Tamil Culture. Catholic Christianity is an international religion and it seemed to have helped him a great deal in his lifetime task of internationalising Tamil Studies… In the midst of all his international activities for the acknowledgement of the antiquity, richness and beauty of the Tamil language and literature, he remained always a devoted priest of God.”

 

Thamil Nesan quotes Prof. C.R. Boxer, University of London, UK, as saying, “He (Thaninayagam) was in the best sense a ‘Citizen of the World’ widely travelled in four continents and on seven seas, he was always alert and receptive to new ideas, people and places; but he was never deflected by them from his vocation as a Roman Catholic Priest.”

 

A section of Tamil scholars, unconvinced about Thaninayagam’s ‘contribution’, ask, “what precise contribution did Thaninayagam make to the Tamil language in terms of publications in reputed journals of history, in the study of Tamil linguistics as peer reviewed by accredited academics or the study of Tamil history? Did he add to the store on knowledge?” They aver, “no doubt, his organizational skills were excellent in spearheading the IATR. But let’s not forget that the IATR was a joint endeavour with several others participating in it to make it a success. One cannot confine the credit to just one individual”.

 

Compare that to U.V. Swaminatha Iyer who did yeoman service in first publishing the Sangam era Tamil classics for posterity. His contribution to the preservation of Tamil classics was phenomenal. Or to the role of Hindu savant Arumuka Naavalar in Sri Lanka who was the first to use the modern printing press to publish early Tamil classics.

 

As for Vaiyapuri Pillai, noted Tamil lexicographer, he remains the only scholar who critically evaluated the dates of Tamil literature by addressing issues of syntax, vocabulary and literary cross references. He was the only academic schooled in the science of textual criticism. His dating of Tamil literary works would demolish the subsequent exaggerated claims by Dravidian parties in general and DMK in particular on Tamil literature, an exaggeration aided and abetted by the Christian missionary effort. 

 

Conclusion

 

All Christian missionaries from Robert-De-Nobili to Robert Caldwell, all Christian priests like Thaninayagam and evangelists like Deivanayagam, worked and are working for the same agenda of hijacking Tamil language, erasing its Hindu identity, destroying the native culture, converting the natives and ultimately forming a Tamil Christian Nation comprising Tamil Nadu and North and East of Sri Lanka.

 

Dravidian racists, lacking in pride, passion and patriotism, have joined hands with the Church and Christian establishments to alienate the Tamil region from the national mainstream. The situation is ominous, and we need to defeat the nefarious designs of vested interests at any cost. The present political climate in both Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka is not encouraging and the political establishments are of no help in both regions. The onus lies on Tamils living in Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka. They must re-Hinduise their identity and reiterate themselves with pride, passion and perseverance. They must understand that their language, music, art and architecture are all part and parcel of the Great Hindu culture inherited from the Vedic civilisation, which evolved along the sacred rivers Sindhu and Saraswati.      

 

Tamil identity is linked to the broader Hindu identity. We witness this in Carnatic music, the Bharatanatyam dance form, temple architecture, sculpture, classical literature, politics and overseas trade. The Sangam era literature may not have been explicitly religious in theme, but whenever the early poems referred to religious practice, one discerns Hindu observance as in the worship of Mayon or Vishnu, Seyon or Murugan, Kotravai or Durga, Venthan or Indra, and Varuna.

 

Immediate post-Sangam works like Tirukkural, Silapadhikaram and Manimekalai resonate even more with the broader Indic philosophic currents. The subsequent era of the Thevaram and Naalaayira Dhivya Prabandham or Hindu devotional classics sponsored the growth of Tamil imperial power and the political consolidation of the land which in turn facilitated overseas trade and prosperity. Agriculture and irrigation grew in no small measure. The origins of the Tamil language and its development were linked throughout history with the broader Indic world. Let’s never forget that!

 

This explains why the Thiruvaachakam is sung at the coronation of the Thai king, why the traditional ‘Tamil New Year’ in April is the ‘New Year’ observed in Cambodia and Burma, and the Tamil influence in the Hindu religious iconography of Indonesia. The Hindu identity is connected even to New Zealand. The bronze temple bell presumably gifted by the Maoris (tribals of what later became New Zealand) to Protestant missionary William Colenso (around 1836) contained Tamil inscriptions!

(http://www.tepapa.govt.nz/ResearchAtTePapa/FAQs/Pages/History.aspx#tamilbell)

 

Tamil is Hindu; Tamil culture is Hindu culture; Tamil tradition is Hindu tradition; Tamil heritage is a continuity with the Vedic civilisation which evolved on the banks of Sindhu-Saraswati and flows down to Kanyakumari.

 

(Concluded)

The writer is a freelancer 

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The series of this type of articles are the real need of the hour.

I am not a king of South of yesteryears. If I had been so, I would have presented Shri BR Haran, in recognition of his penetrating series of article of this type, "Myth of Christian contribution to Tamil " a ‘’KADA” in my Darbar.
“Kada” is made of Gold with Nine very precious Stones (Nava Ratna) embedded as a heavy ornament usually worn on the right hand and presented to great Authors in open Darbar, and made to wear by the King himself with his own hand, besides all facilities to write peacefully, the classic works throughout his life; in appreciation of composing beautiful masterly literary /classic pieces of work.

BR Haran deserves such appreciation, I am for sure!!

May his tribe increase.
Seshadri Rajagopalan
Seshadri Rajagopalan
July 25, 2010
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Part 1 of 3…The native language of Tamil people is Tamil, the ancient form of which is older than the later-arriving Sanskrit. It is a fact that Sanskrit words have been adopted into Tamil over a period of time, but for this to happen, the language of Tamil which predates the coming of Sanskrit would have to exist. We need not accept the emotional statement of Mu Ka that Tamil is the mother of all languages (MOL), because no language, including Sanskrit, can be mother of all languages. Sanskrit supremacists and assorted religious fanatics who assign MOL status for Sanskrit for their own reasons make similar claims, but Sanskrit, as its name suggests is refined from earlier existing languages. It is not necessary for Sanskrit to be older than Tamil to be the great classical language, which it is. As a person brought up in a family infused with the study of Sanskrit, and as a student of Tamil, I can say, instinctively, and factually by comparing the grammatical structures, and development of vocabulary, that Tamil is more ancient than Sanskrit (not only as old as 2000 years as the author grudgingly admits!). The modern Tamil is the result of evolution of the language over millennia.
Varghese
July 25, 2010
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Part 2 of 3…The main grudge of the author is that the Tamil people take pride in this fact, and in the fact that their culture is not Sanskritic/Vedic, but more ancient than that. We are fortunate that India admits such diversity, where Sanskrit with its Vedic religious affiliations can co-exist with more ancient native cultures and languages in different parts of the country. A kind of sectarian thinking lies at the heart of the author’s attitude: that such fierce pride in divergent cultures and languages and religion cannot form a nation, that a nation can be formed only by sacrificing such diversity at the alter of cultural and denominational homogeneity. Fortunately this country has not gone down that road. It is a kind of sectarianism, which is harmful at a deeper and more intense level.

The author’s analysis of the Christian missionary scholars is tasteless, completely off the mark, and is a result of his sectarian ideology. The books and the authors he quote in support of his views are not any different. The quotes he reproduces in profusion read more like rants against chosen hate objects than like scholarship. It is true that the main motivation of the missionaries in studying languages like Tamil was missionary. After all they WERE missionaries. But it is pettiness to run down their contributions to the study of Tamil, the pettiness compounded when such campaign is motivated by hatred.
Varghese
July 25, 2010
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Part 3 of 3…I have been reading some of the articles written by the author. He belongs to a set of 3 or 4 practitioners of his art. I found the members of this group are in fact only speaking to each other, commenting on each other’s write-ups, with a few regular admirers pitching in in the comment sections. In this serial write-up the author has tried to combine his pet peeves: 1. His unbridled irrational hatred for his fellow citizens who are Christians. 2. Hatred of those Indians who as Tamil people are proud of their ancient culture and language, and call their ancient culture Dravidian (it could have been any other name). 3. The author feels threatened by the promotion of the fact that Tamil is an ancient language, older than Sanskrit (he is willing to grant only 2000 years!). To him this is a religious issue. This is where his real concern lies, to which he is arriving at in a roundabout way. His fulminations against the Tamil Conference are reduced to this. 4. Dravidianism, while reinforcing certain caste structures, has changed the caste equations. The author wants the ancient caste equations back.

The answer to this twisted thinking is that, it is not necessary to be an adherent of particular religion or local culture or linguistic traditions to be a patriotic citizen of this country. Patriots (and non-patriots) speak different languages, follow different religions, and live in diverse local cultures. It is good that an umbrella culture, an ancient and perennial idea, exists, but not at the expense of diversity. The idea is India.
Varghese
July 25, 2010
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People who oppose Sanskrit as it is an Aryan language, should also understand that Christianity too belongs to Aryan race. There is no relation between christianity and Dravidians. Tamil was specially formed by the lord Shiva and made his son Lord Murga as the GOD of Tamil. He also made Agasthiyar Munni as Tamil Munnivar! Now, taking the back bone of tamil, and introducing christianity to it and then spreading rumors that Christianity is the sole reason to uplift tamil is all way too much.

Not sure how many people are aware of this. There once exsisted Dravidian Culture in Papua New Guinea. The Places name and other things are so Dravidian. It is unfortunate that the christhian missionery simply removed all the dravidian culture from its soil... it is even funny to know that one of the christian missionary in PNG starts with
When christian missionary first came to the tipm of india.... they removed all the goddess from the temple and replaced them with Christian gods.

They are to be blamed for Mayan civilizations extinction. mayan's practiced their religion till the 1600s after that they were all forcefully converted to christianity.

Don't let this religion panitrate our land .... they will distroy every bit of culture to accommodate theirs! Also, you can see how cunning they have been in converting people just wiki ''Roberto de Nobili'' the person responsible for ROMAN CATHOLIC BHRAMINS!

They are converting people not for the god, but for the money! It is a business for them!
''Bhramanar Sangham'' a river in PNG is called Kavery. Here is the link http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/living/old-dravida-in-new-guinea
Tamizhan
July 25, 2010
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Tamil and chritianity simply do not go hand in hand . They destroyed Dravidian culture in Paupa New Guinea, they destroyed Mayan culture, they destroyed ancient greek culture .... now they have spread their tentacles here! I have seen emails tha openly ask people to give money to spread the word of god! I live abroad and was sponsoring on christian run NGO.. well, he was our family friend and trusted him with our money. It is unfortunate that he was using our money to spread his religion in Madurai. We also understood that he did not have any NGO TAX concessions. When we wanted to file the returns he did not have anything for the tax payers.. we trusted this guy and paid US $3000!
Tamizhan
July 25, 2010
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Whatever posted by you is all true - the sole aim of these
missionaries is to hijack our culture and dominate the land.
I shall give you the recent developments I am seeing in Chennai - not to speak of atrocities done in AP: I live in Anna Nagar, Chennai and this locality is crowded with
churches like mushrooms added quite recently. The terminologies they use are direct adaptation of Sanskrit and Tamil words referring to Hindu rites: For example
“Vedaagama Palli” - for Bible school; “Japa Veedu” - for Christian Prayer Hall; “Japame Jeyam” - slogan for Prayer. Apart from this, they organize processions with Kavad (Kavadi usually carried in Murugan Temples). They wear saffron long-gowns. You can identify them as Christians only when you look closely at the cross hanging from their necks. Like Dhanur Masa Bhajan which takes place in the early hours say 5am-
7am in Hindu temple during Dec-Jan months (Margazhi month), they have started conducting prayers and distribute Pongal at the end. One would be surprised to see small roadside temples peeping up here and there for Mother Mary and pooja, camphor litting etc take place regularly. The amount of money spent in luring people is anybody's guess. They
are desperate.
Ramani
July 26, 2010
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Rocks! Awesome stuff!
G
July 26, 2010
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Congrats for excellent expose` of the doublespeak and duplicity of evangelists and DMK's advocacy of the Christian shenanigans!
Ram
July 26, 2010
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Sh.Varghese, You have mentioned,"The author wants caste equations back". I have searched the entire 5 part series but not able to find such a quote from the author. So you are openly and blatantly telling a lie in black and white. And this is superior christian scholarship? The purpose of missionery is not just to convert but to break nations. And thats what they are doing in northeast and thats what have done worldover. And if this fact is told to you, you would term it as christian hatred. Breaking this nation after converting people to your abrahamic intolerent faith is patriotism and pinpointing the fact is christian hatred. ------------- The author has very clearly established that the achievement of so called tamil lover missionery inquisitionists was introduction of printing press and this too was for the purpose of proselytisation of the mass harvest style. If you do not agree why can't you list the contributions?--------The devaram nalayira divyaprabhandam thiruppugazh in tamizh are preserved by the devotees ; the entire sangam era literature was passionately collected and printed by people like uv ve saa; arumuga navalar and the likes-------My question is leaving GU pope who have penned his commentary on thiruvachagam (although distorted the work and insulted manickavachagar) can you please list out what proselytising missioneries have contributed to tamizh literature?
Krishnakumar
July 26, 2010
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Tamil Selvan – Your chronological explanation of Christian conspiracy to erase the native culture is very well exposed. It is a known fact that for the past 300 years the Christians are adulterating the history everywhere and fabricating falls information to establish Christian superiority. Their racist mindset still not erased.
vedamgopal
July 26, 2010
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The legacy of Western civilization to the world - Dark Ages, Crusades, The Inquisition, Witch Hunt, Slavery, Colonization of Africa, Asia, America and Australia, Imperialism, World Wars, Holocaust, Bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, Conversion and destruction of Native cultures to Christianity, Drugs, School shootings in American schools, Gun violence, Racism, Clergy sex Abuse, Viagra spamming American Capitalism, quest for individualism, Iraq war …. ).

Under each heading voluminous historic authenticated information are available to show the dirty face of Christianity
vedamgopal
July 26, 2010
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Sh.Varghese, The author has exposed the copy cat in the so called tamil lover cum Hindu Hater cum proselytiser Mr.Caldwell. He had coined the word "Dravida". Now that anti national secular divide and rule theory of Aryan-Dravidian race is defunct. If this fact is exposed, you call it ranting. Ofcourse, if copycats of the like of Caldwell are scholars by your yardstick, people like uvesa and arumuga navalar have no place in your scheme of things? is it not?----------And the religious harvesting of missionaries in the disguise of tamizh love have been so rotten so rotten that it has been in plain language pointed out by Smt.Parveen Sultana. Note the point that she is not a Hindu. Alleluia! you have the intellectual property right of designating who is a scholar and who is not. For calling a spade as a spade, you can even say that Smt.Parveen has simply ranted and may also certify that she is no scholar. Its very simple. Those who toe the shoes of secular cum vatican motivated intelligensia are scholar and those who are not are no scholar. Sort of the dravidian parties deciding as to who is a tamilian and who is not. is it not?
Krishnakumar
July 26, 2010
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Sh.Varghese, you have pointed out that the participants in the forum are christianity haters. Whereas the matter of fact is that the words hatred and intolerance are but Abrahamic legacy. Abrahamic faiths very clearly says those who do not believe in their intolerant God would go to hell. Is it not?Whereas the compilation of the author are but facts of history, the analysis of the same submitted by you have the stench of hatred of Hindu, sanskrit and the culture of this ageless nation. Tamil older than sanskrit ----- is not scholarly finding but a clearly church motivated ill intended ranting. And for one thing, I can understand your hatred for Sanskrit sir. That is a big impediment in the way of soul harvest theory of the church. But mind you, devaram, divyaprabandam, thiruppugazh and samskrutham -----all these treasures are surviving the travails of time and these are so not because of any state sponsorship or at the mercy of any intolerant church but simply due to only one factor --------devotion of people cutting across caste, creed, language and why not even Religion. cause unlike the hate literature of missioneries what is filled in all these are love and devotion.
Krishna kumar
July 26, 2010
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Dude Varghese, I am one of the regular admirers which fact seems to incense you. Dude this jesus religion is cancer and Thamizhchelvan is only holding up the cancerous cell for all to see so that we see the tamil of the church has nothing to do with and is civilizationally different from the Tamil of our thevaram and divyaprabandam. Thamizhchelvan has dropped a boulder on the i-love-tamil church and its jesus-wrapped-in-tamil peddlers. Think about writing a book on the church in TN Thamizhchelvan? Start thinking along these lines dude.
S Bhavatharini
July 26, 2010
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Sh.Varghese,atleast your scholarship won't argue that christianity is older than tamizh. The so called tamizh culture is but a pet theme of church. Even assuming anything called tamizh culture, the origin of the same need to be find from the literary works of tamizh and not from old or new testaments or torah or genesis or talmud. agreed? And if you read the sangam tamizh literary works, the latter bakthi literary works in tamizh and the literary works in samskrutham (albeit after removing dark missionery spectacles made of abrahamic bias), culturally you would not find much of difference. But since that won't suit the missionery agenda of soul harvest, you coin words like "diversity" misinterpret the term "diversity" as per your will and wish to suit your agenda of hatred (when other than the language, there is no diversity in the literary works of tamizh and samskrutham) and sow hate seeds between lovers of tamizh and samskrutham. And above all call Hindu hatreadness as patriotism? Are there any limits to missionery agenda?
Krishna Kumar
July 26, 2010
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verghese has not understood chrisitianity. It is the white american christians who massacred more than 100 million natives in America - let him read the book AMERICAN HOLOCAUST by D.E. Stannard. It is the christians who exterminated the aborginals in Australia. It is the christians who killed more than 10 million women and children in the name of witchcraft. It is the christians who killed more than 10 million hindus during their rule in India - British empire. recently, the american christians killed more than 10 lac iraqi muslims in the name of WMD.it is the christians who killed more than 2 million innocent vietnamese and destroyed the flora and fauna of vietnam. it is the christians who put a nuclear bomb on Hiroshima, killing and maiming millions of japanese.
In Goa, the Portuguese eliminated 5 million hindus by way of INQUISITION. people sitting in glass houses, should not throw stones at others
n mohan
July 26, 2010
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Dude Varghese what Mohan is trying to tell you politely is that after having destroyed entire civizations (Iraqi civilization being the latest but not last), annihilating entire peoples (Incas, Mayas and others), after having genocided entire nations (American nation, the original one dude, not your white christian anglo-saxon invaders) how in s.....does it matter if your jesus-loves-tamil funda now wants to appropriate the divine language of Alwars and Nayanmars? This jesus cult needs to be deconstructed bigtime.
S Bhavatharini
July 27, 2010
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Sh.Varghese, people who enjoy pitting samskrutham against tamizh normally comes from evangelical circle. You mentioned about age of tamizh and samskrutham. Carefully, you have mentioned that it is from your instincts, you feel tamizh is older than samskrutham. A scholarly presentation and discussion is available here :http://www.tamilhindu.com/2009/07/sanskrit-few-questions/. You may check up and update yourself.
Krishna Kumar
July 27, 2010
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My sincere thanks to all those who have conveyed their opinions about this series. The Tamil version of this series is being published in www.thinnai.com on a weekly basis.
Thamizhchelvan
July 30, 2010
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Mr. Tamizhcelvan,

Really a great work, to analyze the whole concept of Dravidian and the way you put forward in this forum, really deserves an applauds from those who still believe in Hinduism and those who believe that Dravidian and Tamil are 2 different and aspect both has nothing to do with each other.

But larger question lies is that you have chosen this forum to write your scholarly work on this web site and you have mentioned that you have started writing in other Tamil forum, hardly I think there are not even 20 peoples reading this forum in Tamil Nadu. I am not sure from where you are writing from India, US or from some other European country.

What I see very common in the comment section is that most of them seems to me are from abroad and not from India, this I can say with very confident. So larger question lies how to take this to mass who are in India?

So, do you think just by means of web site you can reach out and take it to the people who are Tamil speaking?

What I think is, this needs to be taken to people by journals or by publishing articles in like-minded magazines.

What is your take on this?

Why I am writing because I spoke this thing to many of my Tamil friends but no one believed it to be right, they still think Dravidian is what which represents Tamil speaking people.

Long way to go from here.............
Jay Kumar
July 30, 2010
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Part 1/ 3…. Thanks to those who corroborated by the nature of their comments what I wrote in my posts. @Mr. Krishnakumar, I never said the author explicitly stated that ‘he wants the caste equations back’. But by merely glancing through his write up, it is not difficult to discern that it is the submerged longing, underlying motif, of the whole exercise. Look at the profile of the writers he quote from, look at the quotes, look at the main cause of his resentment against the particular individuals and people, look at the kind of religious and cultural traditions to which the author wants to subordinate the Tamil Culture and Language.. it sticks out a mile. After going through a number of his ‘articles’ (exercises in tasteless condemnatory prose) it seems he specializes in this obsession. The kind of people applauding these expressions of resentments too is a dead giveaway.

On one point I do agree with this author. Tamil, the language and the culture, is Hindu. It is one among the many linguistic-cultural traditions which constitute the broad idea of Hindu civilization. Vedic culture rooted in Sanskrit is another. But as the author is trying to assert in his concluding paragraph, the linguistic-cultural traditions of Tamil is not a continuation of the Sanskritic/ Vedic traditions. Nor is the reverse true. Assertions, such as those made by the author, are political in nature.
varghese
July 31, 2010
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Part 2/3… It is not diversity, which is essential in a Union that patriots call their country/ nation, that creates divisions, but the refusal to recognize diversity. It is pure sectarianism to claim that patriotism or nationalism should be defined by adherence or subjugation to only one among the many constituent traditions. It can either lead to chaos and violence, or to the rise of fundamentalist or fascist states like the ones in the present Middle East or in the twentieth-century Europe.

The concluding paragraphs of the author’s exertions are motivated attempts to sell spurious political ware. The influence of Tamil traditions abroad and expansions/ excursions made by the Tamil people into distant lands represent the genius and enterprise of the Tamils, and such exploits are not subordinated to some notion of superior influence of Vedic culture. That the author quotes the example of the Tamil bell is merely amusing (the inscription on the bell reads "Ship’s Bell of Muhayideen Baksh”). Of course, Tamils were an ancient sea-faring people.

Nevertheless, no denying the fact that cultures overlap.
Varghese
July 31, 2010
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Part 3/3… Sanskrit is ancient. No denying the fact that Tamil language has been influenced by and have adopted from the treasure house of Sanskrit. But the native language and traditions of Tamil people pre-date Sanskrit. And unlike Sanskrit, Tamil is flourishing as a modern language. The more modern a language becomes, the more it is capable of housing a wider world of ideas and cultural specifics and belief systems. It is futile to resent it. Modern languages are no longer mere vehicles of particular religion, whereas zealots reduce ancient languages like Sanskrit by tying them into the narrow confines of particular religions. Urdu (though not ancient), and to some extant Arabic, are other examples, victims of the same zeal. Combine that zeal with intense soul-numbing resentments, paranoia, persecution complex, and pure malice- the components of classic hate-politics - you have a deadly mixture.
Varghese
July 31, 2010
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I want to to tell the authour of this aricle and the person who were given this comments first should understand without christian missionaries you people cannot be as litetret one ,you might be as barbarians in this society. they enlightened you . so first you should extend your gratitude them if your a true humanbeing. now you are useing a tamil some letters are given by veerama munivar who is a chriatian missionary . not only that lot of christian missionariers who did good to country only. not like divide the society like caste in myth hinduism. if you don any thing about christianty dont make a falls massage to society. BE A GRATITUDE PERSON TO CHRISTIANMISSIONARY . oh lord jesus please forgive this barbarians.
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